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	<title>Comments on: FaceTime video calling on the iPhone 4</title>
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	<description>a bite into the missing bite.</description>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2010/facetime-video-calling-on-the-iphone-4/comment-page-1/#comment-46677</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only if you want to store movies for travel needs, more storage will be needed. Yes, the doubled RAM size was confirmed for iPhone 4. Unless you want to show a million photos to your weary friends, no need for more storage. However if you love to take videos on your new iPhone 4, 32GB is a must as a minute video clip will take about 230 MB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only if you want to store movies for travel needs, more storage will be needed. Yes, the doubled RAM size was confirmed for iPhone 4. Unless you want to show a million photos to your weary friends, no need for more storage. However if you love to take videos on your new iPhone 4, 32GB is a must as a minute video clip will take about 230 MB.</p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2010/facetime-video-calling-on-the-iphone-4/comment-page-1/#comment-46673</link>
		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was told that it is recommended for deaf to get 32gb iPhone 4 to use face time video? I don&#039;t think GB matters in regard of using face time video. What counts is the amount of RAM. right? I understand that RAM size has doubled in new model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was told that it is recommended for deaf to get 32gb iPhone 4 to use face time video? I don&#8217;t think GB matters in regard of using face time video. What counts is the amount of RAM. right? I understand that RAM size has doubled in new model.</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2010/facetime-video-calling-on-the-iphone-4/comment-page-1/#comment-46662</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>600,000 iPhone pre-orders yesterday, oh brother! I just found out that my &#039;lost&#039; first pre-order went through the infamous AT&amp;T meltdown and my successful second order was confirmed then cancelled. The only question for me today is did I get one of the June 24 iPhone 4&#039;s or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>600,000 iPhone pre-orders yesterday, oh brother! I just found out that my &#8216;lost&#8217; first pre-order went through the infamous AT&amp;T meltdown and my successful second order was confirmed then cancelled. The only question for me today is did I get one of the June 24 iPhone 4&#8242;s or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2010/facetime-video-calling-on-the-iphone-4/comment-page-1/#comment-46659</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not if you upgrade, it has to be done at AT&amp;T in order to retain the existing plan. If via Apple, you have to open a new voice plan then get a new TAP plan via AT&amp;T then try to retain your old existing TAP plan for the new iPhone. Which is better is up to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not if you upgrade, it has to be done at AT&amp;T in order to retain the existing plan. If via Apple, you have to open a new voice plan then get a new TAP plan via AT&amp;T then try to retain your old existing TAP plan for the new iPhone. Which is better is up to you.</p>
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		<title>By: AIR</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2010/facetime-video-calling-on-the-iphone-4/comment-page-1/#comment-46658</link>
		<dc:creator>AIR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need to fight through the web or phone. Go to the apple store app on your iphone and it will reserve the iphone 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to fight through the web or phone. Go to the apple store app on your iphone and it will reserve the iphone 4.</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2010/facetime-video-calling-on-the-iphone-4/comment-page-1/#comment-46657</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fought through the web crunch with fang and claw today to pre-order a 32GB black iPhone 4. Look at all those Apple fanboys scrambling over that cliff today!
Phew, what a day on June 15th!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fought through the web crunch with fang and claw today to pre-order a 32GB black iPhone 4. Look at all those Apple fanboys scrambling over that cliff today!<br />
Phew, what a day on June 15th!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2010/facetime-video-calling-on-the-iphone-4/comment-page-1/#comment-46653</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Facetime is open standard. Does it mean it will work on HTC EVO and  Noika?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Facetime is open standard. Does it mean it will work on HTC EVO and  Noika?</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime Mariona</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2010/facetime-video-calling-on-the-iphone-4/comment-page-1/#comment-46649</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaime Mariona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 02:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VRS and IP-Relay are popular for deaf community to use for wireless phone service. AT&amp;T does provide VRS and IP-Relay for the deaf. You can speak out to AT&amp;T to provide the relay services in iPhone 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VRS and IP-Relay are popular for deaf community to use for wireless phone service. AT&amp;T does provide VRS and IP-Relay for the deaf. You can speak out to AT&amp;T to provide the relay services in iPhone 4.</p>
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		<title>By: genius</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2010/facetime-video-calling-on-the-iphone-4/comment-page-1/#comment-46616</link>
		<dc:creator>genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plato: It all depends on how aggressive VRS providers are going to be in adopting the FaceTime standard, which will also depend on how soon the FaceTime standard is adopted as an open standard.  Tell your VRS provider you&#039;d like to have them support FaceTime - thats probably the best way to encourage it to happen.

Jon, JP, etc: Based on comments here and elsewhere, I do not think we will be charged for FaceTime calls since they will be WiFi based calls, and not dependent on voice numbers.  However, once FaceTime is allowed over 3G, we may need to talk to AT&amp;T about giving TAP plan users an unlimited option, or more generous plans.  Remember TTY users were able to get discounts on long distance bills due to calls taking longer than normal voice calls.  Same principle applies here.

Ward: I would love to see VRS companies come out with their own video apps for the iPhone 4, or even 3rd parties writing video apps compatible with VRS (look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://xmeeting.sourceforge.net/pages/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;xmeeting&lt;/a&gt;, which is open sourced and could be ported over).  Several questions remain regarding this - 1. Will Apple allow access to the hardware API&#039;s for the video cameras?  2. If so, will Apple then approve these type of apps?  3. Will Apple only approve the apps if they run only over WiFi, just like their own FaceTime, or will they allow them to work over 3G? (unlikely, IMHO).  

Let me make things more even more confusing here, ha - iPhone hackers have &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/MuscleNerd/status/15648335945&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;already gone&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://friendfeed.com/ecr80/35871d91/rt-izqrdo-soon-on-cydia-facetime-unrestrictor&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on record stating&lt;/a&gt; that they are going to fix FaceTime so that it&#039;s fooled into thinking that it&#039;s on WiFi when it&#039;s really on 3G, enabling video calling anywhere.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://mofodj.net/~crashx/mobile/3G_Unrestrictor.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;3G Unrestrictor&lt;/a&gt; does pretty much the same thing today on the current iPhone 3G hardware)  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plato: It all depends on how aggressive VRS providers are going to be in adopting the FaceTime standard, which will also depend on how soon the FaceTime standard is adopted as an open standard.  Tell your VRS provider you&#8217;d like to have them support FaceTime &#8211; thats probably the best way to encourage it to happen.</p>
<p>Jon, JP, etc: Based on comments here and elsewhere, I do not think we will be charged for FaceTime calls since they will be WiFi based calls, and not dependent on voice numbers.  However, once FaceTime is allowed over 3G, we may need to talk to AT&#038;T about giving TAP plan users an unlimited option, or more generous plans.  Remember TTY users were able to get discounts on long distance bills due to calls taking longer than normal voice calls.  Same principle applies here.</p>
<p>Ward: I would love to see VRS companies come out with their own video apps for the iPhone 4, or even 3rd parties writing video apps compatible with VRS (look at <a href="http://xmeeting.sourceforge.net/pages/index.php" rel="nofollow">xmeeting</a>, which is open sourced and could be ported over).  Several questions remain regarding this &#8211; 1. Will Apple allow access to the hardware API&#8217;s for the video cameras?  2. If so, will Apple then approve these type of apps?  3. Will Apple only approve the apps if they run only over WiFi, just like their own FaceTime, or will they allow them to work over 3G? (unlikely, IMHO).  </p>
<p>Let me make things more even more confusing here, ha &#8211; iPhone hackers have <a href="http://twitter.com/MuscleNerd/status/15648335945" rel="nofollow">already gone</a> <a href="http://friendfeed.com/ecr80/35871d91/rt-izqrdo-soon-on-cydia-facetime-unrestrictor" rel="nofollow">on record stating</a> that they are going to fix FaceTime so that it&#8217;s fooled into thinking that it&#8217;s on WiFi when it&#8217;s really on 3G, enabling video calling anywhere.  (<a href="http://mofodj.net/~crashx/mobile/3G_Unrestrictor.html" rel="nofollow">3G Unrestrictor</a> does pretty much the same thing today on the current iPhone 3G hardware)  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: nobody</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2010/facetime-video-calling-on-the-iphone-4/comment-page-1/#comment-46613</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that it should be all WiFi (if you can make calls outside of the regular voice context -- see above).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that it should be all WiFi (if you can make calls outside of the regular voice context &#8212; see above).</p>
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