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	<description>a bite into the missing bite.</description>
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		<title>By: Deaf iPhone users upset at lack of data-only contract &#171; Carelee Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2007/iphone-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-36394</link>
		<dc:creator>Deaf iPhone users upset at lack of data-only contract &#171; Carelee Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to use it?  That&#8217;s one of the questions currently causing no small amount of frustration over at deafmac, as they remonstrate with AT&amp;T with regards the lack of a data-only plan for the iPhone.  Chad [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to use it?  That&rsquo;s one of the questions currently causing no small amount of frustration over at deafmac, as they remonstrate with AT&amp;T with regards the lack of a data-only plan for the iPhone.  Chad [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Deaf iPhone users upset at lack of data-only contract &#187; Rayaoto Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2007/iphone-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-36369</link>
		<dc:creator>Deaf iPhone users upset at lack of data-only contract &#187; Rayaoto Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 11:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to use it?  That&#8217;s one of the questions currently causing no small amount of frustration over at deafmac, as they remonstrate with AT&amp;T with regards the lack of a data-only plan for the iPhone.  Chad [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to use it?  That&rsquo;s one of the questions currently causing no small amount of frustration over at deafmac, as they remonstrate with AT&amp;T with regards the lack of a data-only plan for the iPhone.  Chad [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2007/iphone-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-27536</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems unfair to deaf that not able to use phone(voice) as we dont hear any sound.. we should use email or text message those are our voices and hears. not sounds... hearing people can hear and we dont... we can be able to use other accessories or features instead of voice plan.. so they can make profits from accessories or any features such as games, gps, movies, etc... i think that fair..  i think they should make exception for hearing impaired customers... otherwise business will fall down slowly.. more will use VP relay/MVP ... 
thank you for your moment to read and hopefully you reconsider for disability customers needs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems unfair to deaf that not able to use phone(voice) as we dont hear any sound.. we should use email or text message those are our voices and hears. not sounds&#8230; hearing people can hear and we dont&#8230; we can be able to use other accessories or features instead of voice plan.. so they can make profits from accessories or any features such as games, gps, movies, etc&#8230; i think that fair..  i think they should make exception for hearing impaired customers&#8230; otherwise business will fall down slowly.. more will use VP relay/MVP &#8230;<br />
thank you for your moment to read and hopefully you reconsider for disability customers needs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tongodeon</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2007/iphone-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2128</link>
		<dc:creator>tongodeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is not that AT&amp;T is giving deaf people special rights, the issue is that AT&amp;T is depriving all consumers of a product shouldnâ€™t be special at all. AT&amp;T is framing the issue as deaf people wanting â€œspecial treatmentâ€, which is an innacurate and sleazy rhetorical shift. Customers donâ€™t actually care that deaf people are allowed to purchase a data-only plans, customers just care that hearing people arenâ€™t allowed to purchase the same plan. Deaf people shouldnâ€™t be required to purchase minutes that they arenâ€™t able to use, but hearing people shouldnâ€™t be required to purchase minutes that they donâ€™t intend to use either. But AT&amp;T makes a lot of money selling hearing customers minutes they wonâ€™t use and theyâ€™d rather continue to screw everyone. By retracting the data-only plan and calling it â€œspecial treatmentâ€ AT&amp;T is not just throwing the baby out with the bathwater, theyâ€™re pointing the blame at deaf people.  AT&amp;T are even bigger douchebags than the first appear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is not that AT&amp;T is giving deaf people special rights, the issue is that AT&amp;T is depriving all consumers of a product shouldnâ€™t be special at all. AT&amp;T is framing the issue as deaf people wanting â€œspecial treatmentâ€, which is an innacurate and sleazy rhetorical shift. Customers donâ€™t actually care that deaf people are allowed to purchase a data-only plans, customers just care that hearing people arenâ€™t allowed to purchase the same plan. Deaf people shouldnâ€™t be required to purchase minutes that they arenâ€™t able to use, but hearing people shouldnâ€™t be required to purchase minutes that they donâ€™t intend to use either. But AT&amp;T makes a lot of money selling hearing customers minutes they wonâ€™t use and theyâ€™d rather continue to screw everyone. By retracting the data-only plan and calling it â€œspecial treatmentâ€ AT&amp;T is not just throwing the baby out with the bathwater, theyâ€™re pointing the blame at deaf people.  AT&amp;T are even bigger douchebags than the first appear.</p>
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		<title>By: Tayler</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2007/iphone-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2107</link>
		<dc:creator>Tayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@genius - actually about 2 months ago Steve Jobs said that Apple would be adding 3G in 2008 so the AT&amp;T CEO wasn&#039;t leaking anything new. And I strongly believe this was intentional--there is no way a CEO would have made such a mistake. He probably was given the green light to mention 3G just to garner interest. I would have waited until after holiday shopping season though.

Steve Jobs said it would be late 2008 when the iPhone gains 3G, but deep inside, I&#039;m really hoping it&#039;s released at the upcoming Macworld Expo in January!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@genius &#8211; actually about 2 months ago Steve Jobs said that Apple would be adding 3G in 2008 so the AT&amp;T CEO wasn&#8217;t leaking anything new. And I strongly believe this was intentional&#8211;there is no way a CEO would have made such a mistake. He probably was given the green light to mention 3G just to garner interest. I would have waited until after holiday shopping season though.</p>
<p>Steve Jobs said it would be late 2008 when the iPhone gains 3G, but deep inside, I&#8217;m really hoping it&#8217;s released at the upcoming Macworld Expo in January!</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2007/iphone-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2093</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind.  AT&amp;T does have 3G in select areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind.  AT&amp;T does have 3G in select areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2007/iphone-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m excited about the prospect of a 3G phone, but how is that relevant to AT&amp;T?  I thought their data services were EDGE only.  Why would the CEO be announcing that bit of information?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m excited about the prospect of a 3G phone, but how is that relevant to AT&amp;T?  I thought their data services were EDGE only.  Why would the CEO be announcing that bit of information?</p>
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		<title>By: genius</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2007/iphone-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2091</link>
		<dc:creator>genius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AT&amp;T has taken off the ability to modify the iPhone plans and remove the data portion, according to TalkiPhone: http://www.talkiphone.com/locked-back-into-using-edge-168/    

Also a 3G version of the iPhone has been confirmed by AT&amp;T&#039;s CEO. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&amp;sid=aAoHevYzQJgw
I wonder if Steve Jobs blew a fuse like he typically does when other companies pre-announce Apple products.  Hehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&#038;T has taken off the ability to modify the iPhone plans and remove the data portion, according to TalkiPhone: <a href="http://www.talkiphone.com/locked-back-into-using-edge-168/" rel="nofollow">http://www.talkiphone.com/locked-back-into-using-edge-168/</a>    </p>
<p>Also a 3G version of the iPhone has been confirmed by AT&#038;T&#8217;s CEO. <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&#038;sid=aAoHevYzQJgw" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&#038;sid=aAoHevYzQJgw</a><br />
I wonder if Steve Jobs blew a fuse like he typically does when other companies pre-announce Apple products.  Hehe.</p>
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		<title>By: drew</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2007/iphone-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2086</link>
		<dc:creator>drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worse.....APPLE IPHONE EXEMPTED FROM HEARING AID RULES

The Apple iPhone has been given an exemption to Federal Communication Commission rules that require cell phones to be compatible with hearing aids. â€œThe situation does not sit well with the Hearing Loss Association of America,â€ reported RCR Wireless News. Apple claims it is exempt under the â€œde minimisâ€ provision, which waives hearing-aid compatibility rules for companies that offer two or fewer handsets. But this provision â€œwas designed to take into account small startup companies with two or less products,â€ said the HLAAâ€™s Brenda Battat, â€œcertainly not the Apples of the world.â€

in my opnion,   I am not happy with APPLE who not try to add to support hearing Aid.  Some deaf customers need it.   it is another blow for Apple. 
APPLE IPHONE EXEMPTED FROM HEARING AID RULES

http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071117/SUB/71117008/1005
and http://www.deafweekly.com/current.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worse&#8230;..APPLE IPHONE EXEMPTED FROM HEARING AID RULES</p>
<p>The Apple iPhone has been given an exemption to Federal Communication Commission rules that require cell phones to be compatible with hearing aids. â€œThe situation does not sit well with the Hearing Loss Association of America,â€ reported RCR Wireless News. Apple claims it is exempt under the â€œde minimisâ€ provision, which waives hearing-aid compatibility rules for companies that offer two or fewer handsets. But this provision â€œwas designed to take into account small startup companies with two or less products,â€ said the HLAAâ€™s Brenda Battat, â€œcertainly not the Apples of the world.â€</p>
<p>in my opnion,   I am not happy with APPLE who not try to add to support hearing Aid.  Some deaf customers need it.   it is another blow for Apple.<br />
APPLE IPHONE EXEMPTED FROM HEARING AID RULES</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071117/SUB/71117008/1005" rel="nofollow">http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071117/SUB/71117008/1005</a><br />
and <a href="http://www.deafweekly.com/current.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.deafweekly.com/current.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.deafmac.org/blog/2007/iphone-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to mention - if you see anything I should modify or add to the petition description, please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to mention &#8211; if you see anything I should modify or add to the petition description, please let me know.</p>
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